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  1. #41
    JC New Top 10 Classic HFO 🌊 Episode List July 10, 2023.
    1. Hookman
    2. The Vashon Trilogy
    3. To Kill Or Be Killed
    4. Highest Castle, Deepest Grave
    5. Engaged To Be Buried
    6. The Ninety Second War Part I
    7. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    8. Draw Me A Killer
    9. King Of The Hill
    10. Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born
    JC

  2. #42
    That is a pretty solid list. Personally, I'd have to have Lewis Avery Filer in there. Hookman and Vashon are definitely consensus top tier of all-time

  3. #43
    I hate to be repetitive, but that's technically 12 episodes.

  4. #44
    JC AUGUST 1, 2023 Top 50 FAV Episodes List (1968-1980).

    1. The Ninety-Second War Part I
    2. Engaged To Be Buried
    3. Hookman
    4. The Vashon Trilogy (Sorry, Bobbi)
    5. To Kill Or Be Killed
    6. Draw Me A Killer
    7. Highest Castle 🏰, Deepest Grave
    8. King Of The Hill
    9. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    10. Honor Is An Unmarked Grave 🪦
    11. The Singapore File
    12. Beautiful Screamer
    13. The Late John Louisiana
    14. Double Exposure
    15. All The King's Horses 🐎
    16. F.O.B. Honolulu
    17. Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born
    18. Why Wait Until Uncle Kevin Dies?
    19. I'm A Family Crook---Don't Shoot!
    20. Over Fifty? Steal
    21. And A Time To Die...
    22. East Wind, Ill Wind
    23. Forty Feet High 🌊 And It Kills!
    24. The Double Wall 🧱🧱
    25. Nightmare In Blue
    26. Nine Dragons 🐉
    27. The Bells 🔔 Toll At Noon
    28. The Reunion
    29. I'll Kill'Em Again
    30. By The Numbers
    31. Murder---Eyes Only
    32. The Flip Side Is Death
    33. Cry, Lie
    34. The Defector
    35. Trouble In Mind
    36. Mother's Deadly Helper
    37. One Big Happy Family
    38. Yes, My Deadly Daughter
    39. Computer 🖥️ Killer
    40. A Gun For McGarrett
    41. Legacy Of Terror
    42. Oldest Profession...Latest Price
    43. A Bullet For McGarrett
    44. Ten Thousand Diamonds 💎 And A Heart ❤️
    45. Full Fathom Five
    46. Death Is A Company Policy
    47. Samurai🗡️
    48. The Last Of The Great Paper Hangers
    49. How To Steal A Masterpiece 🖼️
    50. Number One With A Bullet

    Still a work in progress. Trying to get it "letter ✉️ perfect." HFO 🌊 has so many quality depth of episodes. Will continue to move episodes up and down. August 1!!! Next month, Bobbi will begin the 50th Anniversary Series Episodes 🌊. A highlight here on the Classic HFO 🌊 Forum. JC

  5. #45
    John, I doubt you’ll ever be able to get your list “letter perfect” because it’ll always change depending on your mood or what you feel like watching that day. One day you’ll enjoy a specific episode and then you’ll watch that same episode months later and think it’s the best thing ever. Then a few months later it might not be the best thing ever… but still very good. It all depends on what you’re in the mood for that specific day.

  6. #46
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    It would make more sense if you stuck to a Top 10 or Top 20 format. What does the current list mean, those are ALL the "good" episodes and those that are not on the list are not good?

    It is also suggested the first in the list is 4.0 out of 4.0, the second is 3.97, the third is 3.94, the fourth is 3.91, etc., etc.

  7. #47
    JC New Top 10 Classic HFO 🌊 List August 25, 2023.

    1. Highest Castle 🏰, Deepest Grave 🪦
    2. King 👑 Of The Hill
    3. Draw Me A Killer
    4. Hookman
    5. F.O.B. Honolulu
    6. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    7. The Vashon Trilogy (1,2,3)
    8. East Wind, Ill Wind
    9. The Ninety-Second War Part I
    10. Honor Is An Unmarked Grave 🪦

    Want to thank all the great Classic HFO 🌊 fans that presented different FAV episodes and lists on Mr. Mike's forum over the years. Also, the ones who presented their lists here on Todd's Classic HFO 🌊 Forum. It should be a great project my Top 50 episodes. I will turn "50" May 2024 and can wait until April 30 or May 1, 2025 at the latest. Stars ⭐ seem to be aligning. Going to get it letter perfect.

    Regards, JC

  8. #48
    JC Updated Top 50 FAV Classic Hawaii Five-O 🌊 Episodes.
    December 10, 2023.

    1. King Of The Hill
    2. Hookman
    3. Engaged To Be Buried
    4. Draw Me A Killer
    5. The Vashon Trilogy
    6. Highest Castle 🏰, Deepest Grave 🪦
    7. To Kill Or Be Killed
    8. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    9. F.O.B. Honolulu
    10. The Ninety-Second War Part I
    11. Honor Is An Unmarked Grave 🪦
    12. The Reunion
    13. Beautiful Screamer
    14. The Late John Louisiana
    15. The Singapore File
    16. All The King's Horses 🐎🐎
    17. Why Wait Till Uncle Kevin Dies?
    18. Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born
    19. Nine Dragons 🐉
    20. Double Exposure
    21. One Big Happy Family
    22. I'm A Family Crook--Don't Shoot!
    23. Over Fifty? Steal
    24. By The Numbers
    25. The Double Wall 🧱🧱
    26. And A Time To Die...
    27. Forty Feet High 🌊 And It Kills!
    28. I'll Kill'Em Again
    29. The Bells 🔔🔔 Toll At Noon
    30. East Wind, Ill Wind
    31. Cry, Lie
    32. Murder---Eyes Only
    33. The Defector
    34. Nightmare In Blue
    35. Trouble In Mind
    36. The Flip Side Is Death
    37. Mother's Deadly Helper
    38. Yes, My Deadly Daughter
    39. Samurai 🗡️
    40. A Bullet For McGarrett
    41. Computer 🖥️ Killer
    42. Wednesday Nights, Ladies Free
    43. Number One With A Bullet
    44. Ten Thousand Diamonds 💎 And A Heart ❤️
    45. Legacy Of Terror
    46. Is This Any Way To Run A Paradise?
    47. A Gun For McGarrett
    48. Full Fathom Five
    49. Death Is A Company Policy
    50. The Young Assassins

    JC

  9. #49
    JC Quick Top 10 FAV Classic HFO 🌊 Episodes. FEB 16, 2024.

    1. Highest Castle, Deepest Grave
    2. Hookman
    3. Engaged To Be Buried
    4. King Of The Hill
    5. The Vashon Trilogy (I know It's 3)
    6. Draw Me A Killer
    7. F.O.B. Honolulu
    8. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    9. To Kill Or Be Killed
    10. The Ninety-Second War Part I

    Happy Birthday 🎂 Mr. Mike. Continued good health and great HFO posts. A little cake and ice cream and presents too. JC

  10. #50
    Sooo.....9 and 10 don't count? If they do, why not include both parts of The Ninety-Second War?

  11. #51
    JC 50 Greatest Classic HFO Episodes Update. April 29, 2024 Eastern Time 1:52 AM.

    1. All The King's Horses 🐎🐎🐎
    2. Engaged To Be Buried
    3. Hookman
    4. V For Vashon: The Patriarch
    5. The Ninety-Second War Part I
    6. Highest Castle 🏰, Deepest Grave
    7. V For Vashon: The Son
    8. To Kill Or Be Killed
    9. V For Vashon: The Father
    10. Draw Me A Killer
    11. F.O.B. Honolulu
    12. Didn't We Meet At A Murder?
    13. The Late John Louisiana
    14. The Singapore File
    15. The Reunion
    16. King Of The Hill
    17. Why Wait Til Uncle Kevin Dies?
    18. Honor Is An Unmarked Grave
    19. Nine Dragons
    20. Yesterday Died And Tomorrow Won't Be Born
    21. Double Exposure
    22. Beautiful Screamer
    23. By The Numbers
    24. I'm A Family Crook---Don't Shoot!
    25. One Big Happy Family
    26. The Double Wall 🧱 🧱
    27. Forty Feet High 🌊 And It Kills!
    28. Nightmare In Blue
    29. The Defector
    30. And A Time To Die ...
    31. Over Fifty? Steal
    32. East Wind, Ill Wind
    33. Cry, Lie
    34. Murder---Eyes Only
    35. The Bells 🔔 🔔 🔔 Toll At Noon
    36. I'll Kill Em Again
    37. The Flip Side Is Death
    38. Trouble In Mind
    39. A Bullet For McGarrett
    40. The Young Assassins
    41. Yes, My Deadly Daughter
    42. Mother's Deadly Helper
    43. Computer 🖥️ Killer
    44. Samurai 🗡️
    45. Full Fathom Five
    46. Wednesday Nights, Ladies Free
    47. Death Is A Company Policy
    48. Is This Any Way To Run A Paradise?
    49. Ten Thousand Diamonds And A Heart ❤️
    50. A Gun For McGarrett

    JC

  12. #52
    MAY 11, 2024 Classic Hawaii Five-0 🌊 Question Of The Day.

    What is a Classic HFO Episode 🌊 you believe to be a 3 star ⭐⭐⭐ or higher star ⭐ rated episode that is underrated and doesn't get talked about enough on the HFO 🌊 forum?

    JC Answer: Honor Is An Unmarked Grave 🪦 Season 8.

  13. #53
    A Bullet for McGarrett, Killer Bee, and Nightmare Road are 3 from season 2 which would make my top 5 for that season. They’re rarely talked about and if they are it’s in a negative light.

  14. #54
    Thanks for the information Ringfire! I would definitely have A Bullet For McGarrett 3+ Stars ⭐⭐⭐. Dr. Farrar was an interesting character plus a Wo Fat sighting. The college student murdered diving was a creative murder. We also learn Wo Fat has his contacts in Hawaii. He already knows about the woman police officer in the class. I never was that much of a fan of Killer Bee. Probably 2.5 stars ⭐⭐ 1/2 for me. A Nightmare Road is 1 of the 2 Star⭐⭐ episodes for me. Exciting beginning when the Doctor shoots the guy but I think it goes downhill. Nightmare Road paints itself into a corner as the Doctor ponders turning himself in or not. The Uncle selfishly doesn't want him the Dr. to go to the police. I don't know if the girlfriend was just using him or did have feelings for him. It's my birthday ���� week. Going to be 50 like the series. I have a calendar year to finalize my Top 50 �� Classic HFO episodes. An arduous and impossible task with so many outstanding episodes. Onion �� slice thin separating these episodes. Honor Is An Unmarked Grave ��. JC

  15. #55
    50 Years Old Today. It fits into the Hawaii Five-O 🌊 theme we have here at the Forum. Have been dodging these tornadoes lately here in Pennsylvania. Competition for my Classic Top 10 HFO episodes and Top 50 🌊 List is a very arduous process. So many outstanding episodes! Here's my Top 10 Hawaii Five-O episodes right now 5/18. I have about 30-40 episodes in competition for the Top 10.

    JC Top 10 Classic Hawaii Five-O 🌊 Episodes May 18, 2024.
    1. Hookman
    2. Engaged To Be Buried
    3. To Kill Or Be Killed
    4. "V" For Vashon: The Son
    5. Highest Castle, Deepest Grave
    6. "V" For Vashon: The Patriarch
    7. King Of The Hill
    8. Draw Me A Killer
    9. All The King's Horses
    10. F.O.B. Honolulu

    Quick Answers To Some HFO 🌊 Forum Questions.

    1. I've had Over Fifty? Steal on the Top 50 List between 15-25 on most of the updated lists. Usually it's around 20. There are so many excellent episodes it just is sliding down. Filer is 1 of those incredible characters.

    2. Nine Dragons 🐉 is like a movie in quality. I can understand why Mr. Mike enjoys this episode. There are some questions how Wo Fat can impersonate Shang without much detection and how they were able to obtain the nerve gas inside the lab. Despite the Security procedures. I currently have Nine Dragons at 19. It should be around 18-23 in the Final List next year.

    3. As far as my FAV Wo-Fat episode, I would select F.O.B. Honolulu. Just an outstanding episode. Love the different characters involved. The battle for the plates was intriguing to watch. It appeared the best course of action was to avoid the plates. People who had the plates in their possession would usually end up dead. I asked my Sister over the years... Her FAV WO-FAT episode is Forty Feet High And It Kills!

    4. Some underrated episodes Classic HFO 🌊 in no particular order.
    1. Yes, My Deadly Daughter
    2. Legacy Of Terror
    3. Ten Thousand Diamonds And A Heart
    4. The Defector
    5. East Wind, Ill Wind
    6. Tsunami
    7. Oldest Profession Latest Price

    5. My FAV Seasons of Classic HFO 🌊 are still Season 3, Season 6, and Season 9. I think in Season 10 we see some episode decline. Strange as Season 9 was such a strong season.

    JC

  16. #56
    JC 30 Episodes Pushing For Top 10 Status In The Final Top 50 Greatest Hawaii Five Episodes Part I. June 1, 2024.

    Well, it's June 1 now and time for the first installment 10 of 30 episodes in competition to be cemented in the Final Top 10. This is an incredibly arduous and difficult task as there are so many excellent Classic HFO 🌊 episodes.

    1. HOOKMAN ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 95/100 (95%). The incredible Hookman episode has 1 of the best opportunities to land in the Final Top 10. Stoner is out for revenge after serving his prison time. His unique Hook arms and having McGarrett on his revenge list...It makes Hookman a MUST WATCH! episode.

    2. KING OF THE HILL ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 90/100 (90%). One of my first watched episodes and 1 of my FAVS. Young Marine Auston shoots Danny Williams in the hospital and takes him hostage after receiving a blow to the head. A very tense episode as McGarrett must save Danno as well as not shoot and kill a decorated Marine.

    3. THE LATE JOHN LOUISIANA ⭐⭐⭐ .75. 75/100 (75%). Strong episode from start to finish. Nick Pierson a hit man in Quon's organization falls in love with Julie Grant. The witness he has been assigned to kill. One of the best love stories in the series. Not many plot holes or mistakes.

    4. "V" FOR VASHON: THE SON ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 80/100 (80%). The 1st of the Vashon Trilogy. Chris Vashon is shot and killed by HFO leader Steve McGarrett in self-defense during a hotel robbery. The only son of Honore Vashon and his grandfather Nick. Chris survived an earlier court trial where the witnesses were paid off or disappeared.

    5. ENGAGED TO BE BURIED ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 95/100 (95%). One of my FAV episodes. It occupied my #1 spot for 2+ years. A great Chin Ho episode as his daughter is in love with Rono Vidalgo. A good-looking young criminal in the Vidalgo family organization. Just a memorable episode.

    6. BEAUTIFUL SCREAMER ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 70/100 (70%). Excellent episode! Danno's fiancee is murdered by a serial killer who is 1 most likely in his circle of friends. Pete King is roughed up by Danno in his anger and emotion. Great from start to finish.

    7. NINE DRAGONS ⭐⭐⭐ 1/2 40/100 (40%). Interesting like a James Bond movie. McG has to recover a deadly nerve gas stolen by WO FAT associates from the University. McG is drugged and psychologically tortured by WO FAT in China. 1 of the best WO FAT episodes. Will be difficult to break into the Final Top 10.

    8. DRAW ME A KILLER ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 90/100 (90%). This Draw Me A Killer has been in my Top 10 for a few years. Great chance it reaches the Final Top 10. Very creative episode with the Judy Moon comic strip and the killings.

    9. HONOR IS AN UNMARKED GRAVE 🪦 ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 80/100 (80%). Probably 1 of my FAV later HFO episode and a shining Season 8 episode. Writer Travis Marshall's detective work locates the missing heir Brian Henderson's grave. HFO could not solve the missing Brian Henderson case for 7 years. Time runs out for Travis Marshall.

    10. CRY, LIE ⭐⭐⭐ 1/2 50/100 (50%). HFO Detective Chin Ho is brilliantly framed as taking bribes from criminal types and also set up as a murderer. I love this episode but will be difficult to break in the Top 10. Enjoyed seeing Chin Ho's large family and wife.

    JC

  17. #57
    John, shouldn’t all your candidates for the top 10 spot be all 4 star episodes (or 90% or higher)? Why do you have some in there that are like 40% or 50%? Those are very low percentages that one would assign to very mediocre episodes. Maybe I don’t understand how you calculated those percentages. But even just going by the star system I would think any candidates for your top 10 would be all 4-star episodes. Just look at your top 30 and only pick out the 4 star ones.

  18. #58
    Ringfire

    Thanks for asking about the Top 10 Candidates. The episodes with the 90% or higher designation have a greater opportunity to land in the Final Top 10. Cry, Lie & Nine Dragons most likely won't land in the Final Top 10 but I wanted to give them recognition. They still most likely will be in the 15-30 range. Some episodes like I'll Kill Em Again and The Bells Toll At Noon are highly respected here at the forum but not my FAV episodes. It is a difficult task to be sure. Engaged To Be Buried most likely will finish in the Top 5 as it is 1 of my FAV and an outstanding episode. I don't know what to do with Over Fifty? Steal either. It's starting to slide down my rankings over the last few years. It might end up between 15-25. Still have 2 more slates of 10 episodes in consideration for the Final Top 10. As I've recently turned 50, I have about 11 months to take notes and watch some more episodes. I'll probably break up some of the two part episodes and Vashon Trilogy. It definitely will make it more difficult. Some episodes like To Kill Or Be Killed, Honor Is An Unmarked Grave, The Singapore File, Yesterday Died.... will be in that 9-10 range or just below that cut line. I'm interested to see how it shakes out myself. Always good to hear from you Ringfire. Open to suggestions for Top 10, 20, 30, 40, 50. I'm going to try and incorporate some episodes from Seasons 8-
    12 in the Top 50. Double Exposure, East Wind, Ill Wind, Number One With A Bullet, Murder---Eyes Only, The Defector etc have a good chance to make the Top 50. JC

  19. #59
    I guess what confuses me is your percentages. You give both Hookman and Beautiful Screamer 4 stars, yet you give Hookman 95% but Screamer only 70%. Surely something at 70% wouldn’t be a 4 star episode, would it? I know that you may like certain 4 star episodes more than others (as do I) but the 70%-100% range is quite large for 4 star episodes.

    For me personally, I’m a big fan of “One for the Money” (I’d give it 4 stars) and I’d put it in my top 5 for season 1. It’s the first of the many serial killer type episodes even though I realize it’s not the best. Draw Me a Killer and I’ll Kill ‘Em Again are both superior and both are also 4 stars. That said, if I had to assign some kind of a percentage to these (since they’re all 4 stars) I’d probably put I’ll Kill ‘Em Again at 100% (pretty much perfect for me) and Draw Me a Killer at maybe 99% and then One for the Money would probably land at 95%. All pretty close to each other - in the 90s percentile. But I would never put a 4 star episode somewhere at 70%. That’s too low. That’s gotta be for the 3 star episodes or less I would think.

    Below is probably how I would do my percentages:

    90-100 - 4 stars
    80-90 - 3 and a half
    70-80 - 3 stars
    60-70 - 2 and a half
    50-60 - 2 stars (the very average episodes)

  20. #60
    Ringfire

    It's not a grading system. It's the percentage possibility that particular episode will be on the Final Top 10 episode list. Let's take The Late John Louisiana episode. Outstanding episode. Not many plot holes or mistakes. One of my 3.75 out of 4 star episodes. It has a 75% chance of making it to the Final Top 10 List. Extrapolating it out further, The Late John Louisiana would have maybe a 90% chance landing in the Greatest HFO episodes 11-20. Meaning it probably will end up in my Top 20 somewhere. Cry, Lie most likely won't make the Final Top 10 but I think it will be somewhere between 15-25. Some of the episodes like Hookman and Engaged To Be Buried most likely end up in the Final Top 10 List. This is only the first slate of 10 episodes in consideration for the Final Top 10 List. I have 30 episodes in competition for the Final Top 10. It's 1 of the reasons I created my 6 star ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ system several years ago. I could place the greatest episodes at 6 stars. Some just below at 5.5. Others strong episodes at 5 stars. It allowed me more flexibility. Here at the Forum, it's a 4 Star ⭐⭐⭐⭐ ranking. JC

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